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#1767 - 01/11/08 08:29 AM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: okosh]
Lita Offline
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When I seen that first post by jammav, my heart sunk. I knew it was big trouble. TO give real info to a stranger on the net!!!!!
Oh my gosh. Plus it is not on the MI site yet either. Use to be you had to have $200,000 or more to be VIP. Now jammav is saying only $1000. MI is getting WAY desperate.
You know darn well anyone who puts that money in is never ever going to see it again. Another angle they are coming to is the bigger payouts. MI wants people to reinvest the money rather than withdraw. If they make members FEEL "special" for being VIP, they might leave the {numbers on a screen} money in there. If MI has to payout to many matured accounts, they are going to run.

I really believe jammav is an insider, paid poster, or part of the criminal Admin behind the scene.

Then the open- trade being link to minvest. That is how a few of those 4 figure payouts were paid. Off from OT money?
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#1768 - 01/11/08 08:37 AM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: Lita]
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 Originally Posted By: Lita
Use to be you had to have $200,000 or more to be VIP. Now jammav is saying only $1000. MI is getting WAY desperate....


VIP's for $1000 is a LIE


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.....I really believe jammav is an insider, paid poster, or part of the criminal Admin behind the scene.


He is bought and paid for

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#1775 - 01/11/08 10:01 AM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: okosh]
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This letter from an upset victim of open-trade. He has been working with the FBI. They have linked open-trade and minvest together. It is a very long post, so I am only posting some of it. If you want to read the whole of it, follow the link.
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http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2308548&postcount=3647

Awty/ Jeff .. You are the Man Baby! But i don't play this game like you do.. i do respect your awareness and your straight to the point answers. I Relate!
NoScammers.. your damn right about Minvestments and Golden Purse but i can't say anything.. it's up to your gut! thery're getting up there in the ranks.. you do the whois research and follow the bread crumbs..
Sreywas.. "It's not Just A Handful bud" it's 2 hand fools!
I really wish i could could tell you all more and this may be the best advice i can give but.. if it starts with a B and ends with a Fu*d.. Get The F**K OUT OF IT NOW!! There's about 2 dozen others i know of operating.. most apperntly hundreads!
Honestly, i'd love to give out my personal contact info and fully back my findings/claims and chat but i know i've done my job here and there's noway in hell i'm going to jeprodize this investigation more than i already have by subbmitting this post! I just wanted you to all know what i've done so far but it is also up TO ALL OF YOU TO SBMIT A CLAIM WITH YOUR LOCAL FBI IC3 SO "WE" CAN CONTRIBUTE TO OUR JOINT INVESTIGATION. No Matter What You Lost Dont Lose Anymore By Letting This Go! Participate and Iniciate Action on These Bastards! Grow Some BALLS People and Stand UP for Whats Yours!
So to all of you.. Be Smart>> Don't do this Hyip Crap anymore>> Merry Christmas and let the New Year Rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll Be Back!!

MattaFAKT
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#1776 - 01/11/08 10:10 AM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: Lita]
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A highlight from the post above:
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your damn right about Minvestments and Golden Purse but i can't say anything.. it's up to your gut! thery're getting up there in the ranks.. you do the whois research and follow the bread crumbs..


Edited by Lil (01/12/08 12:28 PM)
Edit Reason: changed highlighted words
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#1781 - 01/11/08 04:38 PM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: Lita]
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I had a feeling that Golden Purse was connected some how. So now, the feds are going after these programs?
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#1839 - 01/13/08 05:06 PM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: Lita]
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Jammav is IMO a paid cheerleader or part of the Admin. He is using reverse psychology on the sheep. No one had been talking about PN for since earlier today. A page and a half they had not been talking about PN.
jammav came in and said you guys stop talking about PN so he will stop...dahhhh anyone with brains knows PN is NOT going to stop. jammav wants anything to be talked about just to keep the thread going. The Mi thread has been sorta quiet today. PN has not been around.
Same with jammav dumb post of members becoming VIP at $1000. They are getting desperate. If they are getting any money now, the wise only put in the minimum. So now MI is sending in the cheerleaders to encourage greater losses (deposits), knowin full well those depos will never be paid out. Money for their own pocket as yet another one is getting ready to pack and run.
Onto goldenpurse to suck in more bucks.
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#1842 - 01/13/08 06:00 PM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: Lita]
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Jammav's motives have become so transparent that they're laughable.

I'm disappointed in QW...he's done a 180 - again - in his posts. Makes you wonder if a little money didn't pass hands to "encourage" him to stop making sense and sounding so much like a realist and get back on the mindless cheerleader path.

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#1916 - 01/15/08 10:25 PM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: Lita]
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Paid poster masterofcool came back today to post yet another bogus post. When he came in before, a player pointed out his past posts to show he was not telling the truth. So I reposted a link to Silverlex's post outting him.

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2334981&postcount=11834

.One of masterofools post... something about open-trade and David ran that one too. He sounds like a cheerleader for the most part. He sounds like he could be part of Davidsgang as they like to tease the players as if they are giving hints, like what is written in some of the Davidgang letters.

He has had a Mod question him, asked for a screenshot (which at this point he will forge anyways, and being watched by a Mod. Yet he still has not been banned for being a paid cheerleader.
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#1937 - 01/16/08 02:07 PM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: Lita]
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masterofcool paid poster. He posted that MI was going to close soon. Then he posted he made 23k (which was found to be a lie). Then he posted in had inside info. Then he posted about the David group. Now check the post from Davidgang.
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Professional HYIP SCAMmers group


ITrade4U.biz crash

Till the end they seemd to be reliable to me. Then we all could saw:

"This Domain is for Sale FAPIC INVEX E-BASTION TROYBANK ITRADE4U OPENTRADE are our most famous projects! Thank you to have helped us to achieve them, and see you soon for the next one! Shalom, David."


Their message at MoneyMakerGroup.com forum:

My Dear Friends,

After reading all your cries in various boards, I would like to tell you a few things that you probably did not understand well

The basis is that all (I wrote ALL, A-L-L) hyip are scams. NO exception If it would be possible to do 1.20% (or even 1%) by day, EVERY day, why would people go to work at 8 AM every day? They would just sit and look at their growing account Moreover, ALL hyip are MADE TO SCAM, from the very beginning! When I read some idiots saying that HYIP turn into a scam for various reasons, I LAUGH Hyip are scams from the beginning, the GOAL IS TO SCAM!

After we closed e-bastion, I told you that we also run Troybank, remember? And that we will close it very soon! I invited, very kindly, you to withdraw your money, giving you a CHANCE to not lose too much Most of you said "bull****"! To make the things more fun, we posted a few days later a message signed by the "Troybank admin" saying that all was bull****, Troybank is online since 1996, a SERIOUS and HONEST bank, etc etc.

The result, you remember, hey? We closed Troybank a month later, and laughed reading at your messages

But we warned you, WHY didn't you believe us?

Today, same thing: I KINDLY, VERY KINDLY tell you that we also run opentrade and that we are going to shut it down. Why do I tell you that? Because I don't want you lose too much

Now ladies and gentlemen, do like you want, but be ready to cry sooner than expected

I would like to tell you something else: Every time some of you asked Liz (Liz was a GREAT invention, don't you think so? A nice girl So every time you asked LIZ which guarantee we can give, we told you "NO guarantee". So WHY ARE YOU CRYING NOW ?

Specialists began to look after us, we are very afraid You needed 5 months to discover that Liz address in London is a hotel ) We just pick up addresses on Google! Easy, hey? Anyway you may go to London and visit this place, please tell me if rooms are comfortable, maybe one day one of us will sleep there

Well, you already know I am a very kind guy, so here us a good recommendation: Don't waste your time by looking after us, guys! it will cost you money, and better to keep your money (to give it to our next hyipscam

Addresses? False.
IP addresses? False.
ID for banks? False.
Photos on ID? One of us is a GREAT specialist of changing his face! So, his photos, well...
Video records in banks? See above about photos

So, good luck, Sherlock Holmes

I send this letter to a few of you KIND INVESTORS that allowed us to make more than USD 2,000,000 with Liz Waren! Don't wate your time to reply, I won't read your mails!

Be ready to our next program, it will open immediately after opentrade will close

As Liz told... AND NOW, LET'S MAKE MONEY TOGETHER

Shalom,
David

I send this letter to the following people, sure they will post it To make us identified (a little!!!!), I add their login/password in LIZ program

So get out of opentrade !:rant:


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Source:
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Itrade4u-...50#entry4214750
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Minvestment and Goldenpurse are said to be David's creations too. Masterfool is posting "paid to post" in both MI and goldenpurse. They love to drop hints, tease and taunt the players right before closing.
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#1939 - 01/16/08 07:07 PM Re: Minvestment...uh huh [Re: Lita]
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Loc: Arkansas
Yep. I posted something that he might be one of the admin last night.
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