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#961 - 12/21/07 02:02 AM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: okosh]
okosh Offline
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Registered: 10/20/07
Posts: 360
Loc: Australia
Pitty Scottie never got a reply from this scammer....

Here is what he told this victim...

 Quote:
Submitted: 10/27/2006 8:10:58 AM
Modified: 10/27/2006 8:10:58 AM
CompanyOwner
Gary
Vernon Hills, Illinois
U.S.A.

Ricardo is a Year Late

Ricardo purchased my training program 11/29/2005... today it is 10/27/2006. So not quite a full year but pretty darn close.

Ricardo used my training and live phone and written support for 11-months and is now complaining that he is not getting a refund? Does that sound reasonable to you?

If so, please avoid me as I will not be willing to provide you with a refund a year later either.

Refunds 45-60 days later is perfectly reasonable but 1-year later is just not.

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#962 - 12/21/07 02:08 AM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: okosh]
okosh Offline
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 Quote:
Update
Submitted: 10/27/2006 12:19:47 PM
Modified: 10/27/2006 12:19:47 PM
Update
Richard
Montville, New Jersey
U.S.A.

Misrepresentation by Gary Jezorski about Refund.

The response by Gary Jezorski is a misrepresentation. It takes months to open the account because of difficulties in funding and completing documentation using E-Gold, and then funding an E-Gold account. The training was not used until after the account was set up and an investment could be made. There was no time limit put on the guarantee other than it would double within 45 days after investing. There was no advice that could be obtained before the account was set up and funded.

After the accounts was set up, I called up Gary Jezorski to ask about the guarantee. He stated at that time that it applied from the time the account was first funded, not from when the information was purchased.

As soon as the account was funded, contact was made with Gary Jezorski and currencyexchangeprofits.com that claimed at that time that the guarantee was still in effect from the day the account was funded.

I complied with their instructions, and asked for the refund within 60 days after the account was funded. But any reader can go to http://www.currencyexchangeprofits.com and read their guarantee and see for yourself.

For anyone else that has complaints, I suggest that they also file a complaint with http://www.chicago.bbb.org. For further action contact the Attorney General in Illinois and US Postal Inspector.

In order to deceive me into inactivity, Mr. Jezorski called after my posting to this website and promised that I would be getting a refund. Just in case he was lying, I decided to check to see if he posted something different to this report, which he did.


In the State of NJ a civil suit for breach of contract can be filed for which punitive damages can be sought under the NJ Punitive Damages Act. Be sure to investigate your recourse with the Federal Trade Commission.

Mr. Jezorki is now also selling other internet marketing schemes. He is asking other people to advertise DXINONE so that they become part of the scam of selling this fraud to the public and collect commissions for doing so.

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#966 - 12/21/07 06:30 AM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: okosh]
Scottie Offline
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Registered: 12/20/07
Posts: 8
Thanks for all the info and rely's. I purcahsed this program about 58 days ago, but it took nearly 30 days to get everything rolling.
I have tried to contact him again for a refund and am also reporting this to my credit card company today.

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#967 - 12/21/07 07:52 AM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Scottie]
Lita Administrator Offline
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Registered: 10/15/07
Posts: 735
Loc: North West USA
I don't know why GAry Jezorki would give only 60 days when a USA person has 90 days to do a chargeback on their credit/debit card.
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#968 - 12/21/07 07:59 AM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Lita]
littleroundman Administrator Offline
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Posts: 408
 Originally Posted By: Lita
I don't know why GAry Jezorki would give only 60 days when a USA person has 90 days to do a chargeback on their credit/debit card.



Simple, Jezorski's a scammer who plays on the consumers' gullibility and ignorance of consumer rights law.

In Australia, it's illegal, for example, for a trader to display misleading information as to a consumers' rights.
However, very few consumers are aware of the fact and accept the "No exchanges" policies of any retailer cheeky enough to display a sign claiming it.

Most consumers will try once, then accept whatever the provider dictates. (As fraudsters like Jezorski know only too well)
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#970 - 12/21/07 08:12 AM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: littleroundman]
Lita Administrator Offline
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Registered: 10/15/07
Posts: 735
Loc: North West USA
If this guy is telling people to join hyip/ponzi on this tape, he is telling them to do something illegal. If he is giving his link to these hyip/ponzi's, they may be able to sue him for any losses they occurred in those ponzi's.

In using a credit/debit card, it may be easier to track this guy down.


I would say hang onto those tapes and any info, transactions, emails...anything they got from this guy. Take it to the FBI. Write the FBI. Call the FBI, or email them. At the very least, take it to their nearest police station.


Edited by Lita (12/21/07 08:18 AM)
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#981 - 12/21/07 03:44 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Lita]
Scottie Offline
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Registered: 12/20/07
Posts: 8
I sent Gary Jezorski an email stating my dissatisfaction.
part of my email, with help from your responses to this thread, read:
"After further reading and talking with other member, I am now convinced your guarantee is completely false. I am requesting that you cancel all of my activities and refund my credit card for the initial online purchase of $ 249.

These are my reasons: The phone number you list for personal guarantee of assistance is bogus and it is never answered and I've tried hundreds of times. It takes weeks if not months to open the account because of difficulties in funding and completing documentation using E-Gold, and then funding an E-Gold account. The training was not used until after the account was set up and an investment could be made. There was no time limit put on the guarantee other than it would double within 45 days after investing. Well after just 20 days of investing the Invest Manager site you recommended has disappeared as well as the Open Trade you recommended and are still recommending. There
was no advice that could be obtained before the account was set up and funded. CurrencyExchangeProfits.com, Vertical Marketing LLC, and you, Gary Jezorski advertise profits of 1% per day by participating in currency exchanges by way of fees using the services of DXINONE.com. The profits statements are false and the guarantee is never honored. They do not provide the telephone support which they advertised. They make you submit written tickets whicxh you are not informed of until after you join. ....."


This was his part of his response:
"Hi Scott

If you do not expect me to honor my guarantee ... why would you think I would honor a refund request? Your logic makes no sense. So if you want to insult someone, at least do it in a way that is logical."

and some bogus crap about support tickets which is a joke. There is no place in the support ticket for requesting a refund. Anyway, I did submit a support ticket the best place I thought and another email to him asking him for return# and address and no response.

I filed a claim with my cc company.

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#983 - 12/21/07 03:55 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Scottie]
okosh Offline
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Registered: 10/20/07
Posts: 360
Loc: Australia
 Originally Posted By: Scottie

I filed a claim with my cc company.


Don't forget to inform this scammers local FBI office....

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#1056 - 12/22/07 03:54 AM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Scottie]
Scamkiller Offline
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Registered: 12/22/07
Posts: 4
Loc: india
I am With You? but read my post and give comment! HyIP monitors all scam????
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#1083 - 12/22/07 10:00 AM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Scamkiller]
awty Offline
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Registered: 12/20/07
Posts: 26
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
 Originally Posted By: Scamkiller
I am With You? but read my post and give comment! HyIP monitors all scam????

For the most part, yes. Many reasons. While I haven't 'verified' this - it does 'make sense' to me....
Usually, these 'programs' choose to pay 'monitors' first, so that they might have a better 'shot' at getting more funds in.
DOES that mean that they're paying EVERYBODY?
Nope.
I've seen many 'programs' apparently choose to pay 'monitors' - and the obvious 'cheerleaders', but hardly anyone else.
Also, there are groups of people who choose to post 'paid' at monitor sites, whether they're ACTUALLY paid or not.
Also, one might consider - since it is possible to 'get funds back' from a 'referrer' in some cases, and the 'monitors' usually have some default 'referrer code', it would appear possible/likely that they might be held 'responsible' for the losses of everyone who used that 'referral code'.
Maybe something to consider?
Just my opinion,
Jeff
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