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#465 - 12/06/07 02:33 PM What are HYIP's
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program

High-Yield Investment Program (HYIP) is a type of Pyramid Scheme. HYIPs typically accept deposits as low as $1 while promising astoundingly high returns.

Online HYIP schemes rarely last for more than a couple of years. An overwhelming number of cases suggest that HYIPs are Ponzi schemes, in which new investors provide the cash to pay a profit to existing investors, which they typically then withdraw.[citation needed] This approach allows the scam to continue as long as new investors are found and/or old investors leave their money in the scheme, known as compounding (because even higher profits are promised). The SEC has said the following on the matter: "These fraudulent schemes involve the purported issuance, trading, or use of so-called 'prime' bank, 'prime' European bank or 'prime' world bank financial instruments, or other 'high yield investment programs.' ('HYIP's) The fraud artists... seek to mislead investors by suggesting that well regarded and financially sound institutions participate in these bogus programs."[1]

The introduction of e-currencies has made it possible for HYIPs to operate on the internet and cross international boundaries, and to accept large numbers of small investments. HYIPs usually accept deposits by either e-currency, like e-gold, and INTGold, or use specialist third party payment processors like AlertPay, SolidTrustPay, CEPTrust, TriStarMoneyChangers and StormPay. HYIPs typically offer a significant incentive commission (for example, 9% of invested funds) for members to attract and refer new investors.

Most HYIPs disclose little or no detail about the underlying management, location, or other aspects of how money is to be invested (often because money is not actually invested), and relatively little information (other than asserting that they do various types of trading on various stock and other exchanges) on how they actually generate the returns they purport. They are sometimes presented with some form of an emotional appeal, appeals for faith, and promises that they will help investors achieve financial freedom.[2]

Arguably, the largest HYIP scam that has existed on the internet was PIPS (People in Profit System or Pure Investors)[3][4]. The investment scheme was started by Bryan Marsden in early 2004, (according to the Wayback Machine record of http://pureinvestor.com) and spanned more than 20 countries. PIPS was investigated by Bank Negara Malaysia in 2005 which resulted in Marsden and his wife being charged in a Malaysian court with 97 counts of money laundering involving more than RM77 million - US$20 million[5]. Even after these charges were brought forth many of Marsden's followers/investors continued to support him and believe they would see their money some day. This behavior and denial could be seen and still is seen on hyip forums


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#584 - 12/13/07 12:36 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Lita]
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A High-Yield Investment Program (HYIP

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/High+Yield+Investment+Program

HYIPs typically claim to offer interest rates of 1% or more per day on invested funds; some claim to offer much higher daily rates exceeding 200% a day. Allegedly, the highest-return HYIP on record has offered 1,100% ROI in one day. Claims of astronomical returns without large capital outlay or background information are indicative of a Ponzi-structured HYIP program.

As a comparison with a typical 1% per day claim, Warren Buffett, one of the world's most successful investors, made around 30% per year during his most successful period; that is on average, less than 0.1% per day. As the claimed returns of 1% per day are virtually impossible to produce legitimately, all HYIPs are therefore almost certainly Ponzi schemes, and so most investors will in due course lose their money.
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#934 - 12/20/07 07:31 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Lita]
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I was introduced by a so called on-line business expert by the name of Gary Jezorski and Vertical marketing. I paid $ 249 for the program which included real nice videos of how to get started and invest in HYIPS. Guarantted money he calls it. No way you can lose. Well, he recommended Invest manager and Open Trade, both of which are gone with my money. Over $ 1,500!

This guy should be arrested!

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#936 - 12/20/07 07:57 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Scottie]
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Hi Scottie and welcome to VAS \:\)

Is this your scammer??...
http://www.ecurrencyexchangediscounts.com/

I don't know of this scammer but I soon will

I curious what he taught you for that kind of money...


Edited by okosh (12/20/07 08:02 PM)
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#937 - 12/20/07 08:02 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: okosh]
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How did you pay him? With an online payment processor like Paypal or e-gold?
Or by credit/debit card.

Did he just recommend those ponzi's to you, or did he sign you up with his own link or referal number?


Edited by Lita (12/20/07 08:02 PM)
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#938 - 12/20/07 08:07 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Lita]
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You could maybe ring him and ask for your money back...
Maybe I'll ring him
847 557-8411

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Am I allowed to post this scammers photo??


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#939 - 12/20/07 08:10 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: okosh]
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 Originally Posted By: okosh
You could maybe ring him and ask for your money back...
Maybe I'll ring him
847 557-8411

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Am I allowed to post this scammers photo??



Not yet. Little steps. Let's see what we find out and which friends to call in on this one.
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#940 - 12/20/07 08:16 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Lita]
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If he made the payment by credit card he has about 90 days to dispute the charge......
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#942 - 12/20/07 08:28 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: Michael45]
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I am more interested in the ref link to the two ponzi's. That $249 could be a drop in the bucket that he could get back if this guy signed him up in ponzi's.

Just have to wait, hope and see if he comes back.
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#947 - 12/20/07 09:03 PM Re: What are HYIP's [Re: okosh]
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 Originally Posted By: okosh
Hi Scottie and welcome to VAS \:\)

Is this your scammer??...
http://www.ecurrencyexchangediscounts.com/

I don't know of this scammer but I soon will

I curious what he taught you for that kind of money...


Yep. that's him alright

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